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Post A Post-UK Britain...and a Question
Created by John Eipper on 05/03/21 3:21 AM

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A Post-UK Britain...and a Question (Edward Jajko, USA, 05/03/21 3:21 am)

If the United Kingdom were to disunite, would the Prince of Wales still be the prince of Wales?

JE comments:  Great question.  The heir to the English throne has been known as the Prince of Wales since the...13th century.  Possibly s/he could keep the title in a Commonwealth arrangement?


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  • If the UK Dissolves, Whither the Prince of Wales? (Timothy Ashby, -Spain 05/04/21 3:46 AM)
    It is unlikely that Scotland would become a member of "The Commonwealth of Nations" following independence from the United Kingdom. As far as I know, all of the current Commonwealth countries are former British colonies or territories. Some former colonies such as Ireland became republics (i.e. without HM the Queen as Head of State) and left the Commonwealth, while others such as India chose to remain in the Commonwealth without the Queen as Head of State. I suspect that Australia and New Zealand will eventually become republics but remain in the Commonwealth.

    Scotland has never been a colony, even though some nationalists may claim otherwise.


    To answer Ed Jajko's question, the heir to the British throne would keep the title of Prince (or Princess) of Wales regardless of the breakup of the UK, unless what is left of the United Kingdom becomes a republic.


    JE comments:  To shift gears, what process would Scotland need to follow to be readmitted to the EU?  The biggest obstacle would be what to do with the English border.  A new Hadrian's Wall?

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    • More Questions about a Post-UK Scotland, Wales (Roy Domenico, USA 05/06/21 3:41 AM)
      Some questions regarding the recent posts on the UK that maybe WAISers can help me with.

      It seems that the idea of Scotland's independence is not completely popular there. To what extent can the Scots, themselves, torpedo Nicola Sturgeon's plans? And I've long heard the scenario that Spain would block Scotland's entry into the EU because of Catalonia. Spain would be opening a can of worms.


      Finally, I can't see Wales going its own way. I once attended a rally in London to preserve the Welsh tongue--I don't remember why I went, probably with some friends--but I don't see an independence movement in Wales even half as serious as Scotland's.


      So I think that Charles can still use the title of Prince of Wales. Will the Duke of Cambridge take it when Charles becomes king? And by the way, when I asked a dear friend in Manchester--an English nationalist through and through--about the Scots, he only answered "Good riddance."


      JE comments:  I've seen anecdotal reports that Brexit has hit the Scots hard economically, such as in the fishing industry.  But wouldn't the loss of the domestic UK market cause even more pain?  I hope Tim Ashby, who knows Scotland well, will comment.

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